There is no greater mystery

[iron addict]

There is no greater mystery than this:
Being reality ourselves,we seek to gain reality.

Ramana Maharishi

[maximus]

"America's abundance was created not by public sacrifices to 'the common good,' but by the productive genius of free men who pursued their own personal interests and the making of their own private fortunes. They did not starve the people to pay for America's industrialization. They gave the people better jobs, higher wages and cheaper goods with every new machine they invented, with every scientific discovery or technological advance -- and thus the whole country was moving forward and profiting, not suffering, every step of the way." [Ayn Rand]

[iron addict]

Max,

that should have ben a new thread--lol, but it is a good one. Atlass shrugged I presume. Been awhile since I read it. Tell all the quasi-socialists that and se how far it goes--lol.

IA

[maximus]

you should see the hilary clinton qoutes i have, she is the antithesis of ayn rand.

disgusting.

[strongweapon]

dud i hear someone call for QUASI-SOCIALIST MAN

have no fear
i am here


max---you said

Originally Posted by maximus

"America's abundance was created not by public sacrifices to 'the common good,' but by the productive genius of free men who pursued their own personal interests and the making of their own private fortunes. They did not starve the people to pay for America's industrialization. They gave the people better jobs, higher wages and cheaper goods with every new machine they invented, with every scientific discovery or technological advance -- and thus the whole country was moving forward and profiting, not suffering, every step of the way." [Ayn Rand]

funny i guess the wealthy capitalists have their own special "history" books---=cuz mine told of BLACK SLAVERY, WHITE INDENTURED SERVANTS, FORCED CHILD LABOR, SWEATSHOPS--NOT TO MENTION THE SLAUGHTER OF NATIVE AMERICANS------unions brought us better and safer jobs with higher wages---and even they had to shed blood for that

Maximus---my grandfather worked hard his whole life and prospered having acquired a goodly sized ranch and comfortable life by the time he died--so yes there is much opportunity in America----BUT----HE WAS FORCED TO BEGIN WORKING IN A COAL MINE WHEN HE WAS NINE YEARS OLD---I WAS AT HIS SIDE WHEN HE DIED---GASPING FOR AIR AND COUGHING UP BLACK SHIT, BLOOD AND PEICES OF HIS OWN LUNGS---LEAVING MY GRANDMOTHER A WIDOW---A WOMEN WHO WENT TO WORK IN A COTTON FIELD WHEN SHE WAS SIX

so yes many people were starved or worse so these rich men could "persue their own personal interests and private fortunes

AND THE IRONY IS--THAT THE FREEDOM WHICH ALLOWED THE RICH MEN TO DO ALL THAT---WAS GARNERED BY THE BLOOD OF POOR MEN WHO COULD NO LONGER BEAR THE TAXES OF THE RICH MEN-----LOL

[maximus]

The qoute i put up was written by Ayn Rand.

many people toil their entire lives in coal mines with no chance of ever getting out.

at least your grandfather lived in a country where his hard work paid off for him. if he was a coal miner in Russia, he would have died in the mine. there they have generational poverty.

we dont have that yoke on our neck here.

lets face it, without potential for profit many great inventions, literary works, pharmacecutical and scientific breaktroughs dont happen. money is a motivating factor and capitalism feeds the fire of ambition.

[strongweapon]

he did die in the mine max---his body just kept moving for while---my granmother and his kids had to work the farm--he was an invalid--bound to his room and an oxygen tank---then he died---he worked until he could work no more----cuz he had too


but your point here is valid