Teens and Supplements— The Big Secret

**TheBrent** · 05-09-2009, 02:08 PM

What should you take, how much, and When?

The simple answer? FOOD, as much as possible, all the time.

I see so many people from 15-20 (and even older than that) making the same mistake I did, and so many others in this sport. That mistake was spending far too much time researching and spending the little money I had on supplements. I'm not going to say they aren't worth it because there are plenty of decent products out there that can benefit you in the long run, but NOTHING is going to give you a pro body builder's physique any time soon. Sorry; like stated a million times before, there is no secret supplement, no matter what any company claims.

I can assure you, that you'll have the best gains you have ever had if you spend your research time on diet information, and training tips. . . once you have a good grasp on what that is (if you don't want to hire Wes or www.Redpointfitness.com to make it easier) then take a break from reading and start applying. Do not make changes until you stall, do not over-analyze, do nothing but what needs to be done: High protein and the appropriate carbs and fats for your body type followed by heavy weights, lots of rest, and a good attitude.

You can succeed at realistic goals, and take your body much further than any 'Ultimate Pump Elephant Ball sweat' product ever will.

If you are not Benching 1.5x's (or more) of your body weight, squatting 2x's (or more), and deadlifting 2x's (or more) you need nothing more than Some:

Creatine monohydrate 15g, spread over 2-3 doses (Buy a kilo, it will last you a long time)
NOW's ADAM multivitamin
And Trueprotein's custom blend of 30% Milk protein isolate, 40% whey concentrate and 30% Whey isolate cold filtered

Truthfully, You can get away with less. Eat 5-6 times a day, with 50g of protein per meal and you can skip all of the above, but I know we all feel special when we take something so the list is there. Look at one of our stronger members on the board, DBCB. He put on a ton of weight and strength with minimal supplement use. Ask him what he takes and why (Don't actually, he'll hate you if you bug him

). Why does he take so little? Because he has other financial priorities i.e. college, and it doesn't take very much to go far from where you started.

That's it. Pretty simple. Do not take what so-and-so is because he got huge, do not Take What IA takes, or me or anyone else. Why? Because you are not he, nor me. You don't have the money, the hook-ups, the time and development that these others do. When you have put 50 pounds on your frame and 400+ pounds on your 3 lift total, come see me, I'll write up an entire supplement regimen for you. Until then:

STOP WASTING MONEY AND TIME- You do not need malate bonded arginine coupled with 15 sets of bicep curls. You're 17! Eat, lift, sleep, grow. Spend that extra $50-100 a month on food, it will take you much further. That's the 'Big Secret.' The End.

Samsuperjew · 05-09-2009, 02:18 PM

I wish i could have all the money back i wasted on supplements my first couple of months

i wont go into details, but i will say i could probably get my gym a nice reverse hyper

2ndpassion · 05-09-2009, 02:21 PM

Awesome post.

I can definitely relate. I wasted so much $$$ on supplements when I was a beginner and finally stopped after being trained by Wes. Food is cheaper and works better; it's that simple!

Crispy90 · 05-09-2009, 02:55 PM

fish oil?

**TheBrent** · 05-09-2009, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crispy90

fish oil?

NO. Like I said, you can get away with taking nothing. Sure, hundreds of supplements have benefits, but we're keeping this simple, and cheap b.c. people are not looking at the most important part of this sport that they want so badly to do well in. This thread isn't about what is worth it, what's not. I'd rather see people take NOTHING but food for a good few years and then add in supplements.

Shane_ · 05-09-2009, 05:55 PM

Brent dont you work in a supplement store? If so guys this is even more reason to listen to him!

**TheBrent** · 05-09-2009, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaneharon88

Brent dont you work in a supplement store? If so guys this is even more reason to listen to him!

Haha yes, I sell supplements for a living... Ironic right?

LiftingAddict · 05-10-2009, 12:01 PM

Wow great read Brent. Man I wish I realized this a couple years ago when I started out. I wanted to get big FAST, when in reality this is impossible. Wasted a couple hundred dollars on supps. I have even been without whey for the past 2 months and continue to make the best progress ever. Good routine, solid diet, and no OCDness have been my pillars of success!

Johnbodybuilder · 05-10-2009, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiftingAddict

Wow great read Brent. Man I wish I realized this a couple years ago when I started out. I wanted to get big FAST, when in reality this is impossible. Wasted a couple hundred dollars on supps. I have even been without whey for the past 2 months and continue to make the best progress ever. Good routine, solid diet, and no OCDness have been my pillars of success!

Good read brent, what's OCD?

Jaredmh16 · 05-10-2009, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnbodybuilder

Good read brent, what's OCD?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=OCD

05-09-2009, 02:08 PM	#1
TheBrent Teen Forum Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California Posts: 1,689	Teens and Supplements— The Big Secret What should you take, how much, and When? The simple answer? FOOD, as much as possible, all the time. I see so many people from 15-20 (and even older than that) making the same mistake I did, and so many others in this sport. That mistake was spending far too much time researching and spending the little money I had on supplements. I'm not going to say they aren't worth it because there are plenty of decent products out there that can benefit you in the long run, but NOTHING is going to give you a pro body builder's physique any time soon. Sorry; like stated a million times before, there is no secret supplement, no matter what any company claims. I can assure you, that you'll have the best gains you have ever had if you spend your research time on diet information, and training tips. . . once you have a good grasp on what that is (if you don't want to hire Wes or www.Redpointfitness.com to make it easier) then take a break from reading and start applying. Do not make changes until you stall, do not over-analyze, do nothing but what needs to be done: High protein and the appropriate carbs and fats for your body type followed by heavy weights, lots of rest, and a good attitude. You can succeed at realistic goals, and take your body much further than any 'Ultimate Pump Elephant Ball sweat' product ever will. If you are not Benching 1.5x's (or more) of your body weight, squatting 2x's (or more), and deadlifting 2x's (or more) you need nothing more than Some: Creatine monohydrate 15g, spread over 2-3 doses (Buy a kilo, it will last you a long time) NOW's ADAM multivitamin And Trueprotein's custom blend of 30% Milk protein isolate, 40% whey concentrate and 30% Whey isolate cold filtered Truthfully, You can get away with less. Eat 5-6 times a day, with 50g of protein per meal and you can skip all of the above, but I know we all feel special when we take something so the list is there. Look at one of our stronger members on the board, DBCB. He put on a ton of weight and strength with minimal supplement use. Ask him what he takes and why (Don't actually, he'll hate you if you bug him ). Why does he take so little? Because he has other financial priorities i.e. college, and it doesn't take very much to go far from where you started. That's it. Pretty simple. Do not take what so-and-so is because he got huge, do not Take What IA takes, or me or anyone else. Why? Because you are not he, nor me. You don't have the money, the hook-ups, the time and development that these others do. When you have put 50 pounds on your frame and 400+ pounds on your 3 lift total, come see me, I'll write up an entire supplement regimen for you. Until then: STOP WASTING MONEY AND TIME- You do not need malate bonded arginine coupled with 15 sets of bicep curls. You're 17! Eat, lift, sleep, grow. Spend that extra $50-100 a month on food, it will take you much further. That's the 'Big Secret.' The End. __________________

05-09-2009, 05:55 PM	#6
Shane_ Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: www.ukprohormones.co.uk Posts: 1,294	Brent dont you work in a supplement store? If so guys this is even more reason to listen to him! __________________ Train for Strength, Eat for Mass

05-10-2009, 12:01 PM	#8
LiftingAddict Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 755	Wow great read Brent. Man I wish I realized this a couple years ago when I started out. I wanted to get big FAST, when in reality this is impossible. Wasted a couple hundred dollars on supps. I have even been without whey for the past 2 months and continue to make the best progress ever. Good routine, solid diet, and no OCDness have been my pillars of success! __________________ Bench - 305 Squat - 405 & 235x20 Deadlift - 465x1 & 435x4 BB Rows - 245 x 5 My Log: http://www.ironaddicts.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=18632 Goals: 300/400/500

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05-09-2009, 02:18 PM	#2
Samsuperjew Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: FL Posts: 1,327	I wish i could have all the money back i wasted on supplements my first couple of months i wont go into details, but i will say i could probably get my gym a nice reverse hyper

05-09-2009, 02:21 PM	#3
2ndpassion Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 127	Awesome post. I can definitely relate. I wasted so much $$$ on supplements when I was a beginner and finally stopped after being trained by Wes. Food is cheaper and works better; it's that simple!

05-09-2009, 02:55 PM	#4
Crispy90 Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 46	fish oil?

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