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Old 02-25-2009, 08:28 AM   #1
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Another potential ban?

I got this email this morning.

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State Department Floating Ammo Import Ban?

It looks like those who said the Obama Administration would
strike while the iron is hot may have been correct, and the
Administration may be doing it in a way that does not
require them to even get a vote in Congress. In this
morning's edition of the Shooting Wire, Jim Shepherd
writes that Canadian officials have it on "good
authority" our State Department may be on the verge of
cutting off all imports of certain calibers of ammunition.



Ammos listed for this rumored ban include the .50BMG,
7.62x39mm Soviet, 7.62x51mm NATO, .308 Winchester, 5.56 NATO
and .223 Remington. Additionally, we're hearing that an
expansion of this proposed ban might be broadened to include
the 6.8mm SPC, 9mm Parabellum, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP-
among others.

In other words, State Department officials may be floating
a trial balloon to see if there are howls of protest, or
whimpers of compliance. Canadian elected officials who have
directed this information to me say the move seems to be
motivated by "emboldened" anti-gun officials who
think they have a kindred spirit in President Obama.
Shepherd continues that there may also be a plan to ban
exports on certain firearms to Canada from the US, resulting
in the State Department hammering gun manufacturers,
distributors and exporters in the United States while
simultaneously making firearms -and ammunition - ownership
and acquisition more difficult for Canadians.

Many in the pro-rights community have said since the
election that Obama could circumvent Congress by using
regulations in his various cabinet departments to attack gun
owners. It appears that it may have already begun.
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Old 02-25-2009, 09:55 AM   #2
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As they have already done in many countries, anything that is/was military/police calibers will likley be first to go here. .223, .308, 9mm's will be likely first targets. Since the anti's simply cannot provide rational statistics, they go to emotionalism and make statements such as "there is no reason for a civilian to own a "military caliber" firearm.

It will be a good idea for those that want to retain ownership for as long as possible to invest in some non military police calibers. But in the long term, it is bleak for firearm owners.

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As they have already done in many countries, anything that is/was military/police calibers will likley be first to go here. .223, .308, 9mm's will be likely first targets. Since the anti's simply cannot provide rational statistics, they go to emotionalism and make statements such as "there is no reason for a civilian to own a "military caliber" firearm.

It will be a good idea for those that want to retain ownership for as long as possible to invest in some non military police calibers. But in the long term, it is bleak for firearm owners.

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Dude, I went to the local dealer because I want to pick up a Springfield SOCOM16 and he pretty much said it's impossible. Any M1A military type rifle you can't find right now. Not only that if you do find one you're paying around $2000.
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Old 02-26-2009, 05:22 PM   #4
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As they have already done in many countries, anything that is/was military/police calibers will likley be first to go here. .223, .308, 9mm's will be likely first targets. Since the anti's simply cannot provide rational statistics, they go to emotionalism and make statements such as "there is no reason for a civilian to own a "military caliber" firearm.

It will be a good idea for those that want to retain ownership for as long as possible to invest in some non military police calibers. But in the long term, it is bleak for firearm owners.

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Well I've still never understood why civilians need military calibre weapons.
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Old 02-26-2009, 06:07 PM   #5
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Well I've still never understood why civilians need military calibre weapons.
To protect itself from the government!
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To protect itself from the government!
A hopelessly romanticised fantasy which only gun nuts believe.
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A hopelessly romanticised fantasy which only gun nuts believe.
Why do you think they need to be banned?
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A hopelessly romanticised fantasy which only gun nuts believe.
No your right no govement has ever used force on it's population or crushed decent.
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A hopelessly romanticised fantasy which only gun nuts believe.
Worked pretty good here when we had enough of the British government--ever heard the story?

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A hopelessly romanticised fantasy which only gun nuts believe.
Ponder on these numbers a bit:

A LITTLE GUN HISTORY
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------

In 1938, Germany established gun control. From 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------

In 1935, China established gun control. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated ------------------------------

In 1964, Guatemala established gun control. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------

In 1970, Uganda established gun control. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------

In 1956, Cambodia established gun control. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. -----------------------------

Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.

Edit: Let's not forget the ongoing slaughter in Africa due to UN mandated small arms control. Fuck the UN.
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