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Dobermann
08-23-2006, 02:19 AM
Trouble,

Here is an extract from a post on AL about why oral 7-keto-DHEA is not a good idea.As it's one of the supp's you recomend for the HG, would you concur thats it's better taken topically or not at all in it's oral form?


"Furthermore, with oral usage, we suppress 11-beta-HSD-1 activity in the liver. This increases the output of the inactive, dehydrogenase product, cortisone in the body, thus lowering systemic cortisol. This is good right?? Nope. Unfortunately, this results in an increase in systemic cortisone to serve as substrate for formation of the dreaded cortisol in the oxoreductase-only adipocyte and other tissues.

Worse, yet, as we alluded to, the 7-keto will be converted to the 7-alpha-OH compound, which will enter the bloodstream, and increase the reductase activity of the 11-beta-HSD complex, thus INCREASING formation of cortisol from cortisone in peripheral tissues such as adipose and muscle, as well as in the brain, where it will reek havoc, on the long-term functioning of the system."

Dobermann
08-29-2006, 08:43 AM
T, you must be busy? guess i'll go the transdermal route just in case. :)

Algian
08-29-2006, 09:47 AM
Uhm, transdermal sounds like fun!

Grassroots
08-29-2006, 11:34 AM
Unfortunately, you are guessing at amt. delivered to the bloodstream. What carrier (for the 7-Keto) are you using?

Dobermann
08-29-2006, 04:16 PM
Unfortunately, you are guessing at amt. delivered to the bloodstream. What carrier (for the 7-Keto) are you using?


Dermabolics 7-cort. (well I will be when my suppliers get some in stock!)

Dobermann
08-29-2006, 04:19 PM
Uhm, transdermal sounds like fun!

Well I cant speak for others, but greasing my body up with oil's 2x a day was part of the reason I wanted to become a BB :p

P.S Have you got all the supp's IA recomended for you yet?

Algian
08-30-2006, 03:29 AM
Yeah, got the full package yesterday. It's a lot of supps! :)

Haven't managed to find one of them yet.. Still looking for a UK based retailer which has it! and I'm still waiting for my bloody belt!