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Sand Blaster
08-20-2004, 08:57 PM
Working the Lift…by SB
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In what follows, many will probably disagree with me and more so, not try it. That’s fine, but those of you who are brave enough to do it, will see new growth and strength gains. For those of us who have lifted for a number of years, we have been bred by the magazines and gym lore that we should do a variety of exercises in every session for the same body part. For example, flat barbell bench press or dips isn’t enough for chest and shoulders, so we add side laterals, front, laterals, some incline press etc…I am not saying there is not a place for that kind of training but I think it should not form the bulk of your training, especially if you are seeking mass.

What I propose and I know to be effective is that you concentrate on one major lift per day and maybe add a few sets of accessory movements at the end. This is not to say you perform your major lift the same way for EVERY set; but you do use the same lift. For example, let me lay out how you might train like this.

For your chest, shoulders, and triceps choose one of the following for your major lift for that day: flat barbell bench press, dips, low incline or low decline barbell press, or even dumbells. I am going to show how to do it with flat barbell bench press. You will use three grips: close grip—less than shoulder width, medium grip—shoulder width, and wide grip—wider than shoulder width. One of these grips will be your weakest (wg) and one will be your strongest (sg). The other will be in between (ig). You need to know that and figure it out ahead of time. Bring the bar to nipple line, no further towards the head.

Let’s suppose that your close grip is your weakest grip. Since we want to improve the overall lift, we will begin with it as the weak point. Let’s say your best close grip bench press is 275lbs. On the way up to the PR rest three minutes between sets. On the way down, one minute between sets. Where I have a ‘?’ you want to go to failure which is just a break of proper form, no need to go to complete failure.

S1—135 x 8 (wg)
S2—185 x 5 (wg)
S3—225 x 3 (wg)
S4—255 x 1 (wg)
S5—280 x 1 (wg) shoot for a PR
S6—245 x ? (sg)
S7—205 x ? (sg)
S8—175 x ? (ig)

At that point, your chest, shoulders and triceps will be fried. To complete this session, rest one minute after S8 simply add:

Side Laterals—1 set x 20 reps

rest one minute

Lying Dumbell Extensions, palms facing each other—1 x 15

That’s it for day. Next time you train, you could follow the exact same format, except on the way down, use an in-between grip instead of a strong grip. The following time, max on your in-between grip and do the strong grip on the way down.

Note the overall plan, slow and steady on the way up, and on the way down, you kick ass with little rest.

As far as a split goes, you might do something like the following:

Day 1—Bench Press
Day 2—off
Day 3—Squat or Leg Press
Day 4—off
Day 5—Shoulder Press or Dips
Day 6—off
Day 7—Deadlift
Day 8—off
Day 9—Row or Chin
Day 10—off
Day 11—repeats

On your Squat day, vary your stances and if box squatting you can do different heights. On your Shoulder Press or Dips day, keep the weight lighter and work on acceleration. Keep your reps above 6. On your Deadlift day, you can vary your stances, the pin positions, and even the kind of bar like a trap bar. You might want to keep your overall number of deadlift sets below 8. On your Row/Chin day, utilize both under and overhand grips. Do Chins if your back is still fried from the DL day.

Do not add more that 2 or 3 total accessory sets to any one day, try not to exceed 12 total sets for the day. For example, on Day 3 you might want to add 2 sets of leg curls and a set of hammer curls. On Day 5, you might want to add some tricep extensions or a set or two of laterals. On Day 7, you might want to include, 3 or 4 sets of weighted ab work. On Day 9, throw in some dumbell curls at the end.

As you learn to work the major lift, your physique will greatly benefit due to the structural stress provided by multiple-joint movements. Learn to love these movements and your physique will show the change. I think it is no mistake that Ronnie Coleman who trains heavy and on basic movements, looks like he does. Never forget, his powerlifter background and his love of heavy, basic movements. Yates as well loved to train briefly and heavily. We have gotten away from this kind of training and some could really benefit from it.

SB

iron addict
08-20-2004, 09:13 PM
I do one lift a bodypart lots of the time and anyone that says it doesn't work has NVER TRIED IT! My training is pretty eclectic these days and sometimes I will pick a lift and do from 1-10 sets of ONE lift a bodypart. I have went LONG periods of time when my leg work consisted of squatting, or chest either dumbell presses or dips and some of the best growth and strength gains have been made like that.

AGREED!

IA

legaljuicer
05-20-2006, 07:36 PM
always going back to IA's site to learn more :)

RockyB
05-20-2006, 11:30 PM
yes, don't know how i missed this article!

Bryan Paulsen
05-21-2006, 06:17 PM
Hardgainers everywhere should rejoice.

JRS827
02-07-2009, 09:45 AM
Bump for a great but simple approach to training...

twotens
02-07-2009, 11:13 AM
Bump for a great but simple approach to training...

Thanks for the bump, very interesting!

Sand Blaster
02-07-2009, 11:42 AM
If I were to rewrite this today, I would change one thing. I would add some upper back work on any chest or pressing dominant day to the tune of 3-4 sets of higher reps.

SB

JRS827
02-07-2009, 12:26 PM
If I were to rewrite this today, I would change one thing. I would add some upper back work on any chest or pressing dominant day to the tune of 3-4 sets of higher reps.

SB

Funny you mention that as that is what I did several months ago when I started the program.

escapereality
05-10-2010, 12:41 PM
bump !

mikethedon
05-10-2010, 02:47 PM
excellent read. I have use something very similar lately with some trainees with great results

JRS827
05-11-2010, 01:01 PM
I tried this before with good results and I believe I'm going to try it again as I prepare for the army.

slyfox115
05-12-2010, 09:06 AM
With the conditioning work we are doing now, we have switched to this template.

ehopkins932
05-18-2010, 07:00 PM
If I were to rewrite this today, I would change one thing. I would add some upper back work on any chest or pressing dominant day to the tune of 3-4 sets of higher reps.

SB

I was considering doing this template for benching...would the upper back work be something like face-pulls or something like DB Rows? Im on my 7th cycle of the 5/3/1 now and I always do some sort of row on my bench days and pull-ups on my military days.

Also, would something like this work for grips (measurements are from pinky to pinky):

close: just barely wide enough for bar to touch chest (25 inches apart)
moderate: 2 inches out (29 inches apart)
wide: 2 inches out from moderate (33 inches apart)

This puts the moderate grip at about my comp grip. Im not really comfortable with going much wider than that. Also, I could go a bit closer on the close if that would be better.

Thanks for the template!

Sand Blaster
05-20-2010, 11:19 AM
Face pulls and rows would be fine.

Close = less than shoulder width
Moderate = roughly shoulder width
Wide = greater than shoulder width

Your measurements mean little to me because the width of the grip is relative to your body size.

SB

ehopkins932
05-22-2010, 12:34 AM
Ok SB, thanks a bunch. I'm guessing the down-sets are just picked numbers and not percentages as that really isn't too important? You should shoot for something like 7-12 reps? (depending on goal?)

Also, say you stop making progress working up to singles, could you move into doing triples? Or if you wanted to focus more on hypertrophy you could work up to a 5RM for the top rest and back down from there?

Sorry if these questions seem dumb

kennya
10-24-2010, 01:04 AM
bumping this again. Just starting my routine with this setup.

Grixxly
11-09-2010, 07:29 PM
On the Big 3, are you shooting for new 1 rep maxes every session?

mch60360
11-10-2010, 03:55 PM
You "kinda" rotate what you are maxing on every week if I understood the article correctly. So his example was that you start week 1 with CGBP and work down with other grips, week 2 maybe Wide grip for ME, then other grips on down, and week 3 ME with Shoulder width grip and work down.

DOA
11-12-2010, 03:48 PM
How would this wrok if i could only lift 3 days a week? Could I do one day push, one day pull one days legs?

stick fugure
02-16-2011, 06:10 PM
SB,

Do you think this style of training would be effective for a 2 day hardgainer-type routine? Something along the lines of:

Week 1, Day 1
(WTL) Squats 8 sets
Deadlift 2 x 10
Curls 1 x 20
Abs 2-3 sets

Week 1, Day 2
(WTL) Bench 8 sets
Rows 2 x 10
Side Laterals 1 x 15
Skulls Crushers 1 x 20

Week 2, Day 1
(WTL) Deadlift 6 sets
Squats 2 x 10
Curls 1 x 20
Abs 2-3 sets

Week 2, Day 2
(WTL) Rows 8 sets
Bench 2 x 10
Side Laterals 1 x 15
Skulls Crushers 1 x 20


That should be within my recovery abilities. I've made my best gains running the SB Basic Program 2 days a week. I tried to structure a WTL routine similar to it. If you feel this isn't a poor choice, I'm likely going to run it and take a break from SB Basic.

heavyset
09-11-2011, 06:17 AM
Bump for SB for some clarification:

Also, say you stop making progress working up to singles, could you move into doing triples? Or if you wanted to focus more on hypertrophy you could work up to a 5RM for the top rest and back down from there?

On the Big 3, are you shooting for new 1 rep maxes every session?

On Shoulder Press/Dip day when keeping reps above 6, do you still follow the S1...S8 pattern?

Thanks