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iron addict
10-26-2007, 11:16 PM
Cambridge researcher Aubrey de Grey – featured in this video -- believes aging is a preventable phenomenon, much like a disease, stating that aging is merely a side effect of being alive.

Here he explains his belief that humans could live for centuries, if only we approach the aging process as “an engineering problem.”

He outlines the seven basic ways people age, and how to solve each one. And if we get to work now, he says, humans alive today could live to be 1,000.

According to de Grey, these “7 Deadly Things” are responsible for your physical aging, and are the basis of his “engineering approach” solutions:

* Cell loss/atrophy

* Death-resistant cells

* Nuclear mutations and epimutations

* mtDNA (mitochondrial DNA) mutations

* Protein cross links

* Junk inside cells

* Junk outside cells

Essentially, de Grey’s hypothesis states that if you can keep these seven deadly cell-damaging processes below the threshold of pathology – the state where processes start to break cells down until your body dies from the cumulative damage – you will be able to extend your life indefinitely.

In other anti-aging news, published in Best Life magazine, two preeminent aging experts have placed a bet on whether or not someone living today will be alive in 2150.

Steven Austad, biologist and professor of cellular and structural biology at the Sam and Ann Barshop Institute for Longevity and Aging Studies, believes someone alive today will still be alive in 2150. For the past 20 years, Austad has researched the fundamentals of aging, and has been able to drastically extend the lifespan of various animals by tinkering with their genes, or restricting their calorie intake.

Jay Olshansky, on the other hand, believes there are too many hurdles to be overcome, suspecting any benefit derived from anti-aging drugs will probably be wiped out by rising threats to public health, such as obesity and diabetes. In fact, the demographic models Olshansky and his colleagues have built project that obesity alone will cut the life expectancy of Americans by two to five years within the next 50 years.

Both experts agree, however, that science is making radical advances. Scientists now have a much more detailed understanding of how shutting down certain genes and restricting calories slow your aging process.

The shared factor between all long-lived animals is their superior capability to repair their DNA.

Edward Masoro, at the University of Texas, pioneered research in the 1990’s, showing that a low-calorie diet switches on a key gene called SIRT1 that controls a network of other genes, which in turn create proteins that protect cells from damage. The idea proposed by more than a dozen pharmaceutical companies working on anti-aging drugs, is that you may one day be able to simply take a pill that switches on SIRT1 in your cells.

One such molecule is resveratrol, produced by grapes and other plants. Sirtis Pharmaceuticals, Elixir Pharmaceutical, and about a dozen others are pursuing these kinds of molecular-based anti-aging drugs.

The current old-age record holder is Jeanne Calment, a Frenchwoman who died in 1997 at the age of 122, after smoking for nearly 100 years.

southeastoz
10-27-2007, 03:41 AM
I love info like this, I was planning on making a thread asking you and others about this, how long do you think your current lifestyles are adding to your life? I mean I've seen your supp stack, eating habits, weight training gpp etc. How much do you think this will throw on top of your life? Much of a difference?

I was always curious about why all this food and supps actually worked because haven;t humans mostly always had little to eat at all? Didn't they just have some seeds, veggies and some meat every so often, but most of the time they were starving?

Very interesting topic..

dbcb314
10-27-2007, 09:41 AM
I love info like this, I was planning on making a thread asking you and others about this, how long do you think your current lifestyles are adding to your life? I mean I've seen your supp stack, eating habits, weight training gpp etc. How much do you think this will throw on top of your life? Much of a difference?

I was always curious about why all this food and supps actually worked because haven;t humans mostly always had little to eat at all? Didn't they just have some seeds, veggies and some meat every so often, but most of the time they were starving?

Very interesting topic..
it is lower my life expectancy guaranteed. When you get over a certain point, being heavier just stesses your body more, regardless whether it is fat or muscle.

who the hell would want to live that long anyway lol. give me until i need a walker, then let me die

Richard85
10-27-2007, 11:56 AM
it is lower my life expectancy guaranteed. When you get over a certain point, being heavier just stesses your body more, regardless whether it is fat or muscle.

who the hell would want to live that long anyway lol. give me until i need a walker, then let me die

me to... I think I just wanna live to 80 or 90

zengland
10-27-2007, 12:55 PM
who the hell would want to live that long anyway lol. give me until i need a walker, then let me die
That reminds me of a story I heard.
A little boys grandfather was having a 90th birthday party.
The little boy asked 'Who would want to live to be 90?'
His mother said 'Anybody who's 89.'

Siberian
10-27-2007, 06:31 PM
Aubrey de Grey can be seen giving a speech on this here: http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/39

FWIW, that is a great site with tons of cutting edge info given by intelligent people from all walks of life.

RedMustang
10-27-2007, 08:46 PM
Aubrey de Grey can be seen giving a speech on this here: http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/39

FWIW, that is a great site with tons of cutting edge info given by intelligent people from all walks of life.


very nice link. thanks

M.K
10-28-2007, 12:30 AM
its interesting how he mentions calorie restriction which goes against what BBs are doing.

Hoops
10-28-2007, 05:01 PM
it is lower my life expectancy guaranteed. When you get over a certain point, being heavier just stesses your body more, regardless whether it is fat or muscle.

who the hell would want to live that long anyway lol. give me until i need a walker, then let me die

Why would you need a walker at 120? If you're preventing aging you'll be fine.

Hoops
10-28-2007, 05:02 PM
its interesting how he mentions calorie restriction which goes against what BBs are doing.

The best way to live longer is to be smaller

M.K
10-28-2007, 07:32 PM
LOL, are you planning on doing that.

dbcb314
10-28-2007, 07:43 PM
its interesting how he mentions calorie restriction which goes against what BBs are doing.
bbing isn't about being healthy and living longer lol. its so you can be huge as fuck for as long as you are around ;)

Halfway
10-28-2007, 08:58 PM
This calorie restriction stuff annoys me, a few years back the idea that rats fed on restricted calorie diets lived slightly longer lead to seniors (who are already malnourished and living off bird portions of terrible carb-y foods) cutting back even more.

They didn't mention that the starved rats lost their sex drive, and no sex hormones = way lower stress levels and a slightly longer lifespan.

It's like CNN reporting that 20% of school GIRLS use 'steroids' but not mentioning it's the cortiscosteriod type... or birth control.

being over 200lbs probably wont extend your life much :)

Hoops
10-29-2007, 12:35 AM
well, the other thing is that you can be large when you're under 50. As you get older you certainly will have to decide if staying healthy and living longer is as important to you as other things. IA has mentioned that he is trying to say leaner and be smaller as he's now getting older.

I think anti oxidents and other supplements will ultimately play a key role in attempting to live longer. The calorie restriction is interesting but we aren't rats and figuring out exactally how to manipulate this for optimal results is clearly far from an exact science.

sparkymark7
10-29-2007, 05:41 AM
Being larger is more stressful on the heart.

Eating more is more stressful on the digestive system.

Given the "more" of what we eat today, we're also ingesting more of the stuff that isn't good for us (pesticides blah blah blah).

It seems obvious to me that being bigger makes things tougher when it comes to living a long time but you have to choose how you want to spend your time on earth and if its about being big for you and you know the inherent risks then I wouldn't do it any other way.

Thoraby
01-10-2008, 05:57 PM
I watched some documentary on the worlds oldest people. Some lady in Italy who was 113, some old lady in USA that was 115, and one in britain i think who was 110.

When asked, they all said everything over 90 is excess. The reasons were that they were tired, and that pretty much all their friends, spouses and close family(brothers, sisters, cousins) were all gone. They were all lonely. Kinda sad really.

iron addict
01-10-2008, 08:50 PM
No, it's not likely healthy being XXX size. A person that was meant toi be 175 naturally, is stressing out everything being 250. I feel MUCH better at 220-230 than I ever did at 250+. It's just more work on every system of your body being extremely big.

I am not much a proponent of the smaller = longer lifespan. Normal bodyweight or even X-large should be fine IF, and I mean IF the proper precautions are taken. This means conditioning work is always done, but not to the extreme, and supplementation is geared towards long life. See the life extension foundation for more info.

IA

Lumber
01-10-2008, 09:36 PM
I watched some documentary on the worlds oldest people. Some lady in Italy who was 113, some old lady in USA that was 115, and one in britain i think who was 110.

When asked, they all said everything over 90 is excess. The reasons were that they were tired, and that pretty much all their friends, spouses and close family(brothers, sisters, cousins) were all gone. They were all lonely. Kinda sad really.

My grandma is turning 80 and thats what shes says now. Almost all of her friends are gone. She goes to more funerals than birthday parties. Her kids and grandchildren all have moved and have their own families now. She is lonely.

So when I think 140? Wait a second, too be honest I don't look that far into the future. What ever happens will happen and I am sure as hell not going to try to live that long. I want to enjoy the time I am here doing the things I want to do.

But I hear that all changes when the wife and kids come along :whipping:

iron addict
01-10-2008, 09:48 PM
My dad does 3 hours cardio a day (low intensity) in the Arizona sun because he had a double bypass done at age 36. He is doing as much oxidative damage as he is creating health, so he is in the negative balance IMO. Nonetheless, he is doing extremely well and I would be proud to have his agility and health at his age. Especially considering he has prostate cancer (controlled, no change in 4 years) and ulcerative colitus.

He knows nothing about diet and I recently handed him 7 books and a hand written letter. He told me he didn't read anything anymore so what I was doing would fall on deaf ears. You can lead the horse to water......

IA

zengland
01-11-2008, 02:50 PM
A related article:
http://www.physorg.com/news119276583.html